Welcome to the ultimate Reylo Trash Ship forum.

This one is from eBay. thank you. I'm thinking about FO pendant too.  

i'm sorry i think the thread was wonderful because it allowed us a sense of community when apparently elsewhere on the webs there is a lot of hostility.

if they wanted different rules, they could have just tagged it on to the first post and alerted us and not shut the thread down.

i'm especially especially dismayed about the whole no fanart thing. like that hurts people and clogs up the thread. what the fuck? who cares? who really cares?

the only way i understand it is that the thread was becoming too big, like it moved too fast and this is a way of cutting down traffic and making it more mod-able. i really don't care, i loved its chaotic nature and i feel bereft. it was a good place and i don't think i'm alone with that. now we are scattered and the good stuff that happened i will miss because of where everyone is.

i asked whether we could be involved in the process of the reorganisation and was told no. well, apparently FFG could be. interesting no?

i think that is a very weird way of doing things.

AND: the hostility elsewhere is very unlike the board that i used to frequent. now i feel like my specific opinion is targeted.

i agree that our discussion is circular, fine, but that's the nature of the beast, that's not going to go away in the new thread either.

you know, it's like they repossessed our home and now all we've got is ikea furniture pot noodle.

i feel like this could be my costume of choice... a little more black wool, what do you think?

Hi, guys!

That's exactly what is happening. SW's fandoms, like so many other fandoms on the Internet, used to be a sort of haven for the ultimate geeky dudebros, so when other sorts of fans started swarming their sanctuary, they got annoyed first, and then really pissed. Not all guys are like that, thanks God, but there are far too many in fandom.

In other fandoms they treated female fans exactly the same way or even worse.

They also ridicule Tumblr saying it is just for crazy fangirls. But they are wrong, there's a bit of everything on Tumlbr, including very insightful meta. And anyway, what happens if people want to fangirl? The are entitled to doing whatever they want, as long as they respect others.

These guys don't want to educate us, they just want to drive us out, or disperse us, so that our voices get diluted in other threads. 

As someone has said some posts before, guys may like whatever they like, anything, whereas those girls who like Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey are demonized, or worse, looked down on or made fun of.

Well, I haven't read 50 Shades or have seen or read Twilight myself. They are not my cup of tea and I think they are poor quality, forgive me if any of you are fans, but this is how I see them. However, I would never shame anyone or make fun of anyone who likes them. Who am I to tell anybody what they should like?

And what about this moralistic nonsense telling us what kind of male fictional characters we should like? What's that? That's paternalistic and disrespectful. 
I don't need any guy telling me what's better for me, thank you very much. And I can distinguish fiction from reality perfectly well, as all of us here and there on the thread. In the old days, when women weren't even allowed to vote, it was believed that women shouldn't read too much because their minds were weak and couldn't tell the difference between fiction and reality. Well, it seems we haven't advanced enough in this respect. The central idea is always the same, control, trying to control women. And controlling our imaginations is the ultimate goal.

So, girls, you have to choose a NICE guy, which means one dudebros can identify with, because if you choose a different type of guy,and in this case a really sexy one, you can be sure he must be bad for you. Sexy guys are all bad, it is known! While a nice guy you don't feel attracted too is exactly what you need, yeah! That's the recipe for a happy life together, choose someone you have 0 chemistry with. 

And who is nice? A guy has to decide for you, because they know better. In this case it's clear Kylo  is most dangerous, he is bad news, I agree, but we expect him to come back to the right path,that's why we ship Reylo. This has nothing to do with RL and we are not thinking of sending letters to criminals in jail. And whatever we decide, it is our live and our imagination, not  theirs. But they won't let us have the party in peace.

I am sure that the Star Wars PTB were very pleased to see that their gamble to attract new and dedicated fans has succeeded so wildly. I am not likely to try to reach out to anyone in any official position (too much trouble for me), but I don't think that chasing dedicated fans away is something that would be welcomed by the very people working so hard to attract those fans with their carefully built story.

I wish I knew which were my best posts so I could tweak and repost! The only one I remember was the Gothic lit quotes. 

Oddly enough, I think that a love of redemption stories (especially ones about men being redeemed) can be a safe way for women imagining that there could be forgiveness for our own flaws and sins. It's so abhorrent to culture to imagine that women can be bad, sinful, sexual, naughty, angry, and messed up that those characteristics are displaced onto a male character. The positive characteristics--the ones that it is safe for women to admit to having--are embodied in the heroine.

Thus, when the bad guy is redeemed and joined with the heroine, it isn't about how women like bad guys. It's a fantasy of women accepting the dark impulses within themselves and integrating those culturally-hated aspects of their psyche with the ones we are allowed to acknowledge.

That would be why most fans of redemption stories don't chase after bad boys in real life. Because it's actually not a fantasy about potential sexual and romantic partners. It's a fantasy about self-realization (in a sexy, romantic, safe package with nice hair and kissable lips).